I may win less, but I sure lose less. Cheers, VS. I cannot really understand how is possible to crush normal tables and get rekt at fast-fold ones for such simple! Unless you are super nitty and Yall know that and simply don't pay you off unless they are nutty and rekt you!

This is the only logic I can find. As a mainly fast poker player, zoom is just harder Second reason is that you have less reads.

I'm not on stars anymore but when i was playing there zoom was very reg infested too. One of the worst format on a room to grind, unless you're trying to achieve a promotion or a bonus. zoom is definitely tougher for sure, the fish to reg ratio is worse than the usual , and zoom fishes also make fewer preflop leaks by default because of the fast fold option.

I'm going to assume you are a young guy in your early 20s based on your join-date. Don't make the same mistakes I did, trying to make a living from online poker. Of course it's comfortable playing at home but i would like to think that most people are in poker for the short-term only.

If you wanna play online, go play some other smaller apps. Play regular games, don't chase stupid VIP rakeback deals. Don't play Zoom formats if you are playing for money. Zoom is really fun and comfortable to play but is by far the worst format for profit.

Български Česky Deutsch English Español Français Italiano 日本語 Magyar Nederlands Polski Português Русский 中文. The speed of the software still allows them to get in plenty of hands per month and they gradually make money in their games.

Still, almost all of them find their win rates hovering around the low single digits and are struggling to move up in stakes. But why? Is poker really that hard to beat, or is there something else going on?

These days, PokerStars Zoom seems to be the crown jewel of the MSNL reg, which is why I feel obligated to offer the following counterpoint: Zoom is fucking stupid.

I realize that may be somewhat incendiary, but hear me out Players have to play more hands to turn a profit, which means the site gets paid more rake.

This is the same reason why many poker sites do not offer high stakes heads up games. I think this is usually a mistake for a couple reasons:. Even if you are able to increase your hourly rate in theory by playing Zoom, this does not account for the fact that lower win rates increase the probability of a loss.

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The Difference Between Zoom and Regular Poker Tables. The reason why is because the strategic differences between Zoom and the regular games just aren't large enough to warrant it.

Pokerstars has done a great job marketing Zoom and it is still wildly popular with recreational players and grinders alike over two years since its release in May of However, at the end of the day it is still just the same game of poker.

There are a couple of key differences between Zoom and regular poker games though that I will go into here. The most obvious difference that anyone will notice right away is the speed of Zoom when compared to a regular table.

Because of the fast fold button which allows you to simply fold hands that you don't want to play instead of waiting for the action to be on you Zoom tables deal somewhere in the neighbourhood of 4 times as many hands per hour as a regular table.

Or if you are a live player it might be 10 or 12 times as fast as you are used to. Obviously this doesn't change anything about the actual game. It just speeds up the action considerably and allows you to get to the interesting hands that you want to play a lot faster.

It is a brilliant idea and obviously great for grinders because they can get an incredible amount of hands in. It is also great for recreational players because they don't have to wait for some 24 tabler who is timing out on a simple preflop decision.

They don't even have to wait to get dealt in. They can sit down and start splashing the virtual chips around immediately which is exactly what they want.

Lack of Information in Zoom. The second most obvious difference with regards to Zoom is the big lack of information. With player pools on Pokerstars regularly in the hundreds of people at the micro and small stake levels you might only see the same person once every 20 hands or so.

It is obviously therefore a lot harder to build up a reasonable sample on someone when compared to the regular tables where you collect data on them every single hand. This creates a different dynamic to the game.

You can't take a sophisticated line against a reg based off of a mountain of data that you have collected on him. However it is also a two way street.

They don't have much information on you either. In a way it is more like "real poker" as some live players might argue. But the important point is that you simply have to play more ABC by the book poker in many situations due to this lack of information.

This isn't always a bad thing. I have discussed many ways to abuse this information gap in my training videos by simply getting more aggressive than normal in a lot of common spots. Most of the mass multi-tabling nits won't have much information on you and they will just "wait for a better spot.

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IF A REG THAT PLAYS 4TABLES and plays huge volume in a month STARTS SUN RUNNING INSANE FOR EXAMPLE for k HANDS IN A BIG PLAYER POOL HE WILL HURT PLAYER BASE VERY BADLY FOR PLAYERS THAT JUST DEPOSITED they will just leave.

I need to jump into z for easier play and better variance , I know one z reg who played z 3x more players, more recs and got -6bb khands stretch WITH POOL SELECT with impossible to win on showdown, and has k hands 5bb in z zoom with 2x harder player pool.

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